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The Mark Moss Show

The Bitcoin Strategy Rich Families Are Quietly Using

June 13, 2026·48m·w/ Zac Townsend, Jake Roque

Show Notes

Meanwhile founder Zac Townsend joins Jake Roque to explain why he believes Bitcoin is becoming the foundation of a new financial system and why life insurance may be one of Bitcoin's most powerful use cases. They discuss Bitcoin-backed life insurance, tax advantages, estate planning, institutional adoption, the future of the dollar, Sam Altman's investment in Meanwhile, and why Bitcoin companies must solve real customer problems to succeed.


TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Episode Preview
0:58 - Introducing Zac Townsend
1:30 - Iran Conflict and Bitcoin
3:39 - Bitcoin Life Insurance
6:02 - Tax Benefits of Life Insurance
8:10 - Where Does the Yield Come From?
10:23 - An Unlikely Crossover
15:11 - Fiat Always Goes to Zero
17:46 - Bitcoin-Based Alternatives to Legacy Systems
20:00 - Chief Data Officer of California
23:59 - Waste, Fraud, and California Government
27:58 - What Is Y Combinator?
31:56 - Why Did Sam Altman Invest in Meanwhile?
36:53 - Proof of Reserves?
38:56 - Advice for Bitcoin Founders
42:28 - What's Next for Bitcoin?
46:29 - How to Connect with Zac


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